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New J DIlla album, The Diary

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I am not hating on the Estate. I have spoken to some involved and they have been really nice people. Its like anything--should treat it like the Hope Diamond-yeah. There is money to be made--The Estate deserves to profit as much as it can off of his gifts. Of course, you guys all know how I feel about shit--use creative judgement.

This is an incongruent feeling, that I too have...every time there is a mention of Dilla and a project--I am like?????

Or "Dilla Changed MY Life": I want to hit the pause button. But same with cats wearing golden age Tshirts and they pants is tight with broke ass Jordans. They making up for their lack of dicks.

Who am I to question a Yancey boys record or whatever? Personally, I know that it is not Dilla. The hardest cats all pretend to get soft when his name comes up, but you can see it inside their eyes that they no know not what of Gods and BroKing speak.

We will just have to grin and bear it much like everything else that is happening. I went through some weird shit a some five years ago--and I retreated to a cave with just my vinyl and none of this internet shit. I wouldn't even touch a sampler. I hoped everything would be kept on the low--but androids kept being built and dickriders took over. Shit, mocha -flavored/Irish Coffee Starbucks Obama won an election on that shit.

OfficeTime I'd love to hear some examples that you have, sometime.

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I don't know what Dilla's dying wishes were, but considering how close friends of his reacted to some of these things in the media, I find it safe to assume that much, if not all, of this aftermath were not ambitions of his.

true dat. i gotta admit though, i did buy one of Jay's records haha...

but yeah, you raise a good point. we should just take everything Dilla-related and close it off for several years, like they do with the movies in the Disney vaults every couple of years.

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I don't fault Ma Dukes for selling those records one bit. They were discovered in an abandoned storage unit and given to her by the guy who bought then for a few hundred bucks. His family racked up a ton of money in medical costs that these things help Ma Dukes recover from.

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I don't fault Ma Dukes for selling those records one bit. They were discovered in an abandoned storage unit and given to her by the guy who bought then for a few hundred bucks. His family racked up a ton of money in medical costs that these things help Ma Dukes recover from.

That's an excellent point. I definitely sympathize w/ how things have gone for the Yancey family. I have enough perspective in me to understand why things have been done as they have; I just wish that it wasn't at the expense of Dilla's artistic integrity, that's all. Posthumous works in general are of inevitable contentious nature. If his estate wasn't releasing the EPs, beat albums, compilations, and so forth that they have, I, and others like myself, would probably be writing about how they should release his unreleased works.

For the record, I bought one of the records from Jay's personal collection and, until exhaustion, was indulging in many of his posthumous releases. I guess what happened was that the supply became much greater than the demand. It was as if every other month some new J Dilla project was hitting store shelves or "in the works"; there was a time, albeit brief, probably right after The Shining was released, when Dilla heads were longing with anything Dilla related. Dilla had brand loyalty with me...then I grew increasingly frustrated with the quality, politics, and basis of the the posthumous release themselves and I stopped investing in the projects.

That's the truth

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Anyway, on the topic of tributes and whatnot--I was lucky to be a part of the taping of Phife Dawg, formerly of ATCQ's tribute to Dilla.

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I honestly haven't bought a "new" Dilla release since "Jay Love Japan". After that it was getting on the 2pac steeze.

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I honestly haven't bought a "new" Dilla release since "Jay Love Japan". After that it was getting on the 2pac steeze.

I feel you there. When it comes to posthumous releases and Dilla there are only certain things I'm willing to buy or even listen to. For me if its a record that he actually did himself or just like an official release of some of his beat tape instrumentals then I'm totally willing to cop the vinyl. But releases like 'Rebirth' and to a big extent 'Jay $tay Paid' definitely turn me off.

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I'd buy The Jay Dee Project on vinyl in a heartbeat. Also, if and when songs like what House Shoes posted some time ago and "Radio" ever see official releases, I'm all over them. Who knows, I might cop the The Diary when that's finally released. The new vocal material is pretty dope, I just can't commit to these small EPs b/c of the cash they equate to.

Waajeed used to post some super dope and rare Dilla tracks on Bling47's site too...it would be nice if those were hit with a barcode at some point as well.

The Album That Time Forgot by 5-Elementz needs to be pressed up too!!!!!!

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The Album That Time Forgot by 5-Elementz needs to be pressed up too!!!!!!

Yes! I've been searchin' for years for that tape.

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Yes! I've been searchin' for years for that tape.

I wonder who owns the masters to that album. Typically labels own the recording copyright; the label for this project was That Was Entertainment, which I've never heard of. A reissue would be absolutely amazing, even if it was just on cassette like the original. More people need to know about 5 Ela, period!

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Picked up the new 12" yesterday. The artwork is outstanding and that last track on the B side was worth the price of admission alone. I'm wondering where I've heard that beat before.

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Nah, I've never dl that. Probably heard it on a J. Rocc mix/show.

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guessing this is The Diary –– so it's real? Source: Egon's IG: 1/22/16

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WOOO!!

"It's Pay Jay, make sure the name on the check"

I hope there's some new and unreleased ish on it (read: tracks that can't be found on the bootleg of the MCA album).

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WOOO!!

"It's Pay Jay, make sure the name on the check"

I hope there's some new and unreleased ish on it (read: tracks that can't be found on the bootleg of the MCA album).

Good call. I think some of those tracks have been released over the last two years or so so we may be in the clear. Egon's a part of these behind-the-scenes processes so, logically, he's among the first to see, touch, and hear these records, but I still marvel at the things he posts. He's got test presses for days –– super limited runs.

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Two untitled bonus track for iTunes.

Interested to hear if the title track is more complete.

Egon mentions ideas of releasing Dilla's mix of Ruff Draft and the original unedited 20min Donuts...

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Damn, so good.

Edit: Def worth checking out that Rolling Stones article, crazy to hear what Egon went through trying to get this thing put together.

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Not knowing the bonus tracks, it appears The Doe and Kanye produced We F'd Up didn't make the record, right?

EDIT: Sorry, forgot The Anthem replaces F'd Up.

2: and The Doe is of course Give Them What They Want.

Gangsta Boogie is this track Wolf mentioned four years ago:

"We’ve always talked about doing it. I’ve talked to Ma Dukes about it. I don’t know. It would be great to put it out at some point. There are a lot of unfinished songs, like one where he shouts out Snoop Dogg, and Snoop was supposed to kick a verse but it never happened. If Stones Throw were to get clearance to release it, we’d get everyone who was involved, like Snoop, to help finish it."

So most likely a new verse.

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Crazy how that Dilla track was officially released today. I'd been searching for it over the last two weeks but couldn't find it any longer.

The version I remember was basically the track Dank speaks over on this House Shoes track, but w/ percussion… obviously. I'm guessing it changed, albeit slightly, due to sample clearance issues? Haven't read any of the press material on the track nor the official announcement of The Diary yet so I may be bringing up something already cleared up.

https://soundcloud.com/houseshoes/1-03-goodfellas-to-bad-boys?in=houseshoes/sets/let-it-go

EDIT: Just read the ​Rolling Stone article. Egon is the f**king man! So many interesting points in that article. I'm happy he got a chance to get this message out. I'll most likely end up ordering a copy to $upport mainly b/c of the backstory. All the debt he left behind explains all the posthumous releases, doesn't it? Hard to fault his family for trying to piece things together after the fact. It's really a lose-lose situation… there's so much we never knew. Hope his family's doing better now. Things get messy in the music industry really quick. Lawyers, estates, children, baby mommas, etc, etc.

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Hmm Waajeed isn't mentioned anywhere in the production credits, however the bootleg version of Fight Club had him on the boards...I wonder who produced the LP version of it.

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haven't heard a good posthumous Dilla project since that De La Soul record. Will hold out hope for this, though, cause friends with this bootleg have been telling me for years that it's dope.

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