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    people need to stop jocking samples, keep diggin and maybe one day youull find it.
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    Hi STBB Brothers and Sister.. My 100th stbb entry fast approaching..crazy..what a ride... Winning my fifth!... it never gets old...still hella nervous... Woke up twice this night...and I'm typing this an hour and a half before I actually need to get up. It's a big deal to me... there have been weeks I spent up to 25 hours on my entry. Gratitude and love go out to everybody who has helped me out with feedback and and all other sorts of advice and support over the last two years. I made some genuine friends through this forum. Some I meet for live collabin', chillin' and partying too Sometimes I hear things of some past stbb members like yeah, before two years ago things were different..better... We challenged eachother and gave more feedback etc... Well, I don't know..I wasn't there... yes I have fond memories of when I started out too... but I'll be damned if I say: things were better in the past and just leave it at that. It is what you make it..and I'm sticking it out to see what happens regardles This is just an awesome place to have fun and learn stuff... just ask! Ed and Nellas rule with the feedback was great... trying not to forget to put a * in my titles. Haha, my kid's happy... we're going out for a nice dinner to celebrate the win. ...Thanks for all the love... I do this all for you, my peers...and to be a dope ass mofo! ...oh, and the love for the craft of making music and rap of course haha... ...pz! ..I'm off to work!
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    Hey guys, thought you might like a feature story I just wrote on FruityLoops for Noisey. Got to talk Soulja Boy, 9th Wonder, Sonny Digital and Jhalil Beats among others. Also got to speak with the program's mysterious creator. Give it a read if you have a spare 10! http://noisey.vice.com/blog/fruity-loops-fl-studio-program-used-to-create-trap-music-sound
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    PS that's not the background, it's a duet
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    Congrats on the win Setta! So we had a little discussion about updating the voting process here and from that we decided to give it a test run, starting this week. So lets give it a go! In short, everyone gets 3 votes to assign for 1st, 2nd and 3rd places. These will be given 5 points, 3 points and 1 point respectively. You can still use colours and fonts but please list the votes in order: 1st Place: 2nd Place: 3rd: Place Theme, Production and Style comments on your votes are encouraged for feedback purposes. Shoutouts can still be made but please keep them below your vote. If somebody only votes for a 1st place (and not a 2nd & 3rd), we will try and chase up the extra votes but if we don’t hear back then unfortunately this vote would be disallowed to keep things fair.
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    For greenhorns at the forum, let me explain how this buzzlightyear posting works. 5XVT, aka the human octopus, stands for 16 hands chopping in total north korean synchronization. After the chopping (6 minutes max), the nice little choplets are loaded in the Roland FastFlipper Xtreme Victory Triomphator (3 minutes). This apparatus machine - only existing in the mind of XVT - puts all pieces together in a high resolution "entry" transfer. it's all done 5 times faster then the posting of the week rules + gif. So please, let us give a little respect.
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    I got to meet Jonwayne last night, and I asked him myself why he left Stones Throw. He said, " I was just really sick of Swamp Thing and GC on the board, man."
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    500. Congrats to everyone involved.
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    STBB #467 1. MazeOne from Bavaria in Germany. Im 25 years old. I make beats for about 5 years now... 2. There were no "limiting" rules that week so i didnt really think about it and just made the beat... 3. I used 3 parts of the samplepack. I started up with some pitched up chops i used to play the melody you can hear from the beginning. Then i used a short bassnote i filtered and played besides the 808 bassline. I chopped up the bleeps and played it like an arp. I copied the sound and pitched it up one octave and did the same thing again at the end... I used a lot of reverb and effects on almost every sound to get that "spacey" feeling. I also added a synth lead with heavy reverb and delays on it. 4. Drums are very important in my productions and i always take a lot of time to get them to sound dope. I started up with a drumbreak i pitched down, chopped it up and used an Equalizer to get rid of the low frequencys. Stacking drums is awesome and you get a really unique sound! I always do that. I added a filtered, punchy kick and a nice snare. The thing about the snare is, I actually recorded that snare from my monitor speakers with my smartphone and used the audio of the recording, put some filters and effects on it. The Idea was, I think punchy snares always sound dope in videos so I wanted to try it.. worked out pretty good i think haha... I use parallel compression or ny compression on the kick and the snare. If you dont know about parallel compression you should definately check it out on youtube! Once i found out about it, it changed my drumsound completely.. I think it was the first time i used a 808 bassline because Im not a big fan of 808 shit. But It sounded so dope, I just had to leave it in... 5. I make all my Beats with Native Instruments Maschine. I have a microkorg and some other stuff but for that track i only used the Maschine... Never made a Beat with another programm or machine.. I just love the workflow and how quick you can convert your ideas into actual tracks.. 6.I just wanna say, once i found out about the Stonesthrow Battles I made a lot of progress because sometimes you have to use samples you would not use normally. Makes you think outside the box. You have to get some dope stuff together to have a chance to win this because there are a lot of good cats taking part in the battle every week. Respect to all the Beatmakers! peace and good luck on the next battles!
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    you need to come up with these quotes in time for us to slap 'em on stickers & press releases
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    Stones Throw Beat Battle #419 Thank you for all the love on my beat this week! After almost 12 months of making beats and doing these battles, this is the first I've won! (the struggle is real). Without further ado... BEAT TAPE WEEK Sample: Straight from my cassette deck, feel free to find the original if you want a cleaner version (Artist/Track name on file) http://www33.zippyshare.com/v/tRIfQRPp/file.html Make a beat using the sample and following the production rules Upload your beat to the sound cloud STBB group AND to this topic ! Production rules : 1. time limit - 90 seconds! 2. outside drums - allowed 3. keys/synths (VST) - not allowed 5. outside bass (inc. VST) - allowed 4. acapella/skits - allowed 5. cuts/scratches - allowed 6. outside sample - required (see rules) SPECIAL RULE(s) : 1. Intros/skits to be no longer than 4 bars. 2. Your beat must contain at least 1 other sample (sourced by yourself) to compliment the main sample i've provided. Vocal cuts, acapelas and drums will not count towards completion of this rule (although you're free to use them in your beat elsewhere) ie: make the extra sample for this rule an instrumental element (woodwind, brass, guitar etc). 3. Make the main sample provided the focal point of your beat. GLHF. >Post your beat - by Wednesday at Midnight pacific time >Vote - by Friday at Midnight pacific time >Winner - post new sample, rules, etc - by Saturday Noon pacific time and upload the sample here: http://www.zippyshare.com >Questions about posting, production, voting, deadlines? Check out the Frequently Asked Questions page here: http://www.stonesthr...showtopic=13607
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    Peter Andres Marriott-Singh, or simply "DJ Pete Marriott", is the distinct name of the Brooklyn musician in the United States, that first began mixing break beats at the age of 15 during the Golden Era of Hip Hop, and who's music today is very likely to surpass human extinction, to echo the cosmos, reaching its destined "post human stage". Currently on the brink of a controversial, nationwide campaign to reshape Hip Hop back to its ancestral roots, his current musical manifestation consists of numerous small unconnected groups that all utilize Pete's signature conscious analog rhythms. They have all emphasized secrecy, all have called for purification of Hip Hop, and all are considered the third disjuncture of a master plan. The current manifestation is classified as #REALHIPHOP by the League of Hiphopopotamus and the Southern Rhymenoceros Center. DJ Pete Marriott is estimated to have between 5,000 and 8,000 billion fans as of 2012, and the first Fan Club flourished in the Northern United States in the early 1980s, then died out by the late 1980s and went underground, where they remain today. Members made their own, often colorful, costumes: Adidas sneakers, Adidas sweat suits, and Kangol hats, designed to be outlandish yet funky fresh. The second coming of DJ Pete Marriott flourished again nationwide in the early and mid-2010s, and adopted a standard black shirt and black hat wardrobe and code words #REALHIPHOP, while adding radical ego and mass ranting. Emerging now after a 4 month hiatus Pete plans to progress among minorities through a so-called epidemiological externalism of a simulated human-like persona. This second incarnation of the DJ Pete Marriott is the best yet, and has made frequent reference to the Golden Age of Hip Hop and harking back to its original nativism. Though most fans of DJ Pete Marriott see themselves as holding to Hip Hop values and morality, virtually every sound wave produced by the man has the technical ability and motivation to create a completely new musical era. Rumors have spread that Pete's long range planning for #REALHIPHOP2 will develop beyond the foundation of Hip Hop. This album will mark the third coming of DJ Pete Marriott, restructure musical science, theologically reestablish the cosmological rhythms, and back DJ Pete Marriott into the heart of God -- morphing them together as one, past the simulation of time and space. Prepare to swan dive into the timeless archetype of consciousness and all encompassing infinite-energy that is to one day soon be, DJ Pete Marriott.
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    Stones Throw Beat Battle #513 - Them Changes Theme It's the New Year's beat battle week, which is why this week should have some kind of New Year's theme I think. For that reason I will sort of carry on the theme of last week. As with every new year, there will be changes to your life. These might be pivotal, rather inconsequential, terrible or truly improving yourself. So, this week is (once again) about introspection and self-reflection. Try to get deep and make a beat about a change or several changes that might or will definitely happen next year. Samples Because changes can be quite different, I tried to provide a variety of different samples and moods: http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/d3ArvQm4/file.html http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/m4UWcu3R/file.html http://www120.zippyshare.com/v/LNA7Fp1S/file.html http://www120.zippyshare.com/v/eKiGyp4d/file.html http://www120.zippyshare.com/v/GyJj6SND/file.html Rules - Use at least one of the provided samples ​- No time limit - Outside drums, bass, synths, keys allowed - A Cappellas, vocal samples, skits, cuts, scratches allowed - One beat per person Thanks for all the love and creativity on this forum. The STBBs really improved 2016 for me and I hope that the community will grow and further improve in 2017. Have fun and a Happy New Year! - Mawakening The Fine Print: Upload your beat to Soundcloud, include "STBB 513" in the title, and POST TO THIS FORUM by Wednesday at Midnight, Pacific time. Try to leave as much feedback as you can and you will receive it back. For easy browsing's sake, you can also go to the STBB page: http://www.soundclou.../stbbcollection EVERYONE VOTES - by Friday at Midnight, Pacific time Winner: post new sample, rules, etc by Saturday at Noon, Pacific time and upload the sample here: http://www.zippyshare.com
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    STBB 500 / Cinquecento That's right folks. Named this round after the famous Fiat 500 which inspired me to drop some sleazy Italian film music from the 70s as sample material. Flip one or many of the samples in the pack.. hope you find something in it. Apart from that no special rules, it's up to you to make it special. It's the 500 baby! Let's celebrate it with some serious joints. The Fine Print: Upload your beat to Soundcloud, include "STBB 500" in the title, and POST TO THIS FORUM by Wednesday at Midnight, Pacific time. Try to leave as much feedback as you can and you will receive it back. For easy browsing's sake, you can also go to the STBB page: http://www.soundclou.../stbbcollection EVERYONE VOTES - by Friday at Midnight, Pacific time Winner: post new sample, rules, etc by Saturday at Noon, Pacific time and upload the sample here: http://www.zippyshare.com
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    The elusive Poo Putt Platter samples. Discovered at last!
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    Penciled in: 2016: Papermill video 2018: second single 2022: album, hologram tour
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    yoo gang, As I've said on here before, I used to write about hip-hop for a living (at XXL) and now do it on the side for sites like Noisey and Revolt. Recently I did an interview with Knx for Passion of the Weiss, which is the personal blog of hip-hop writer Jeff Weiss. He and I had an awesome talk. We touched on wrestling, giving Dre beats, his work with Kendrick and more. Check it out if you have a spare minute: http://www.passionweiss.com/2015/04/21/im-just-numb-to-surprises-an-interview-with-knxwledge/
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    Why is the sky blue? Why is water wet? Why did Judas, rat to Romans while Jesus slept?
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    STBB #539 Dedicated to Komplicated BOOM BAP Week - in the style of a former STBB member Komplikated, who sadly passed recently, you gotta come with that 90's Boom bap ish... Flip this: http://www61.zippyshare.com/v/ULrTAPFG/file.html - time limit 3.00 - outside instruments / drums / acapellas / vocal shots / fx-stuff allowed - no outside samples The Fine Print: Upload your beat to Soundcloud, include "STBB 539“ in the title, and POST TO THIS FORUM by Wednesday at Midnight, Pacific time. Try to leave as much feedback as you can and you will receive it back. For easy browsing's sake, you can also go to the STBB page: http://www.soundclou.../stbbcollection EVERYONE VOTES - by Friday at Midnight, Pacific time Winner: post new sample, rules, etc by Saturday at Noon, Pacific time and upload the sample here: http://www.zippyshare.com
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    While rebuilding my digital library I have been finding a number of Stones Throw releases for free within various posts on the main site, below are just some that I have found. I'll keep updating the list as I find more, feel free to post some in this thread too and I can add to this list. It would be cool if Stones Throw maybe added another section of the site, maybe something like "Downloads" next to where "Podcast" is? I dunno Aesop Rock & Homeboy Sandman - Lice Aesop Rock & Homeboy Sandman - Lice Two: Still Buggin' DJ RELS MIX + BONUS TRACKS Dam-Funk STFU James Pants Beat Archive Volume 1 James Pants Beat Archive Volume 2 Jonti - Sine & Moon Will Sessions - Real Sessions Vex Ruffin - Euology Vex Ruffin - No Escape Peanut Butter Wolf - Chrome Mix Jonwayne - This is False The Stepkids - Troubadour 7 Days of Funk - N My System Guilty Simpson - Ghettodes Tape Mastah Steph - Courtesy Flash Jonwayne: Cassette 3: The Marion Morrison Mixtape Jonwayne - Special Herbs Medley Post-Stones Throw Pyramid Vritra Tapes
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    Many have declared hip-hop dead before, but it looks like it's real this time.
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    you're disappointing seeing as how u spend the bulk of your time around here trying to hype someone's dead career
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    480 Thank you for the votes / listens / likes / comments. I've uploaded quite a bit of material for you to choose from. -From sample A you must use at least 2 of the provided samples. -From sample B you must use at least 3 of the provided samples. Sample B contains drums / percussion / textures and a few other instruments. Other than the above outside everything is allowed. Just keep it tasteful and within the 3 minute mark. Rules: Use at least 2 samples from http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/T8y3Fhjn/file.html Use at least 3 samples from http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/N9vCs1VI/file.html Optional rule: I usually record my girlfriend improvising harmony over my stuff, then cut up her voice and sample her for the track. Try this out. I would imagine that one week is not enough time for some of you to find a girlfriend, so use anyone you would like, family / friends. Outside drums and bass: allowed Outside keys/synths/instruments: allowed Outside samples: allowed Vocalshots & Scratches: allowed Time limit: 3 minutes The Fine Print: Upload your beat to Soundcloud, include "STBB 478" in the title, and POST TO THIS FORUM by Wednesday at Midnight, Pacific time. For easy browsing's sake, you may also add it to the Stones Throw Beat Battle Soundcloud Group. EVERYONE VOTES - by Friday at Midnight, Pacific time Winner: post new sample, rules, etc by Saturday at Noon, Pacific time and upload the sample here: http://www.zippyshare.com
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    had to go purple today
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    STBB #475 Firstly thank you all for your comments and for voting me this weeks winner! I've been competing on here for a few years now and with the quality of work you all put out weekly, I didn't think I'd ever win. Cheers! Right on with the challenge... Before I started making beats I got into DJing and enjoyed QBerts 'Do it Yourself' videos (Check them on youtube if you haven't seen them!) therefore this week I thought that the challenge could be to utilise the famous scratch samples within your beat. I'm not saying that you need to scratch like QBert or even scratch at all - but try to include at least one of the battle sounds somewhere in your beat. Rules: Outside drums and bass: allowed Outside keys/synths/instruments: allowed Outside samples: not allowed Vocalshots & Scratches: allowed Time limit: 2min30sec Special Rule: Use at least one battle sample in your beat Samples: Main samples Battle samples Happy Battling! The Fine Print: Upload your beat to Soundcloud, include "STBB 475" in the title, and POST TO THIS FORUM by Wednesday at Midnight, Pacific time. For easy browsing's sake, you may also add it to the Stones Throw Beat Battle Soundcloud Group. EVERYONE VOTES - by Friday at Midnight, Pacific time Winner: post new sample, rules, etc by Saturday at Noon, Pacific time and upload the sample here: http://www.zippyshare.com
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    It's kind of eerie how we no longer see what Madlib is up to now that he has amassed such great notoriety. I figured I'd document the story of the time I was lucky enough to meet him, as I don't come on here much. It was nine years ago and ST was doing their thing-I used to follow shows with a magnifying glass and just figured this would be a show to see. Dilla had passed and PBW was doing that video mixing thing that seemed a bit gimmicky. It was a Friday and I had just gotten off of work dressed in full suit. I had no one of course to go to the show with. I stopped of at the buddha connect house that was near the venue. I was early so I blazed listening to MV which was not terribly old at that time. I eventually made it into the venue and noticed everyone puffing inside. It wasn't a terribly large hall with the cup room just a small ways from the bar. The music was pretty good and since I was a workaholic, I thought to myself that the Frank and Dank Dilla produced song was a new sound-that music should sound like that. PBW was being a showman and people in the crowd were weirdly shouting DOOMs name. PBW said that DOOM was in attendance then said "psych." I found the early DOOM cult following interesting. I ended up chilling in the back bar undoubtedly sticking out considering I was wearing a navy blue suit and everyone else hip hop regalia. I notice the vip room door open and out comes Madlib (a bit heavier than he has ever been in his life) with a bigger white girl. I then see Guilty Simpson, who I give a nod to-he nods back. Now Madlib is playing hoochie coochie with ole girl right next to me and I'm kinda cracking up. I offered Madlib a beer-Heineken at the time. We didn't really communicate verbally-it was mostly head-nods and hand motions. He thanked me and went on cavorting with the gal. Later, I reached over and handed him my business card sort of explaining why I was wearing a suit and told him that if he needed anything, he should call. Ha-the entertainment fancy and sample clearance. I was so wet behind the ears, but I figured if I was ever going to work with anyone, it would have been someone whose music I couldn't turn off. He looked at the card, he looked at me and nodded. He was wearing thick shades a long chain and the huge five pointed star ring (he already looked the part). He definitely was not a wine drinker. Anyway this night seemed bigger than any for me. I asked him for a photo and he smiled, gave a super cheesy grin which cracked my shit up and thanked him. From that moment on I knew he was a cool as heck guy. I had been dabbling in music, mostly as a crate digger, so I felt our non-verbal exchange interesting as befitting of improv that only jazz fans can create. I didn't go nuts for his music thereafter like everyone else I'd see at the record shop-but I always recalled that moment. I checked in here much too late. Social media kinda cramped the music scene.
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    ummm yea...... 18 Spock.mp3
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    Surprised nobody's made a Meat Konducta joke yet.
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    does having multiple samples bother anyone else? some of you newer guys probbably dont even remember a time when the battles had only 1 sample (and maybe a break, too). being able to pick from multiple samples kind of kills the competition for me. the best thing about having only sample is that it takes you out of your comfort zone, which usually results in good results because you can't just apply your formula to it, you have to get creative and work hard. if we get a dozen samples to choose from, naurally we're going to sample whatever we think is most dope, which makes it easier to make a beat.
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    YO WHAT IT DO FLY PEEPS AND PEEPETTES. good entries this week! short list la food- reverse new school love it dwayne!- them vox tho! sixfingahzzzz- majorly major!!!! mike-a-veli- BEST INTRO EVER slanteyez- yasssss that swing! aktron- glitchy, smooth, killer drums, awesome work! saadyah- the drums in the second part and the synth work were clutch! morsecode- that laid back vibe was perfectttttttt the winner this week was tough, but i really loved what PETE RANGE did with the electronic vibe. def should have some dope lyrics to grace this one. thanks for the comments, votes, general awesomeness! this is a great place to get feedback and to improve. sidenote: a six finger bitch slap must hurt like hell. but i have something to add to the discussion about lack of interaction. soundcloud in general was originally intended for musicmakers to interact and collaborate with each other. forums like this one were intended to get those people all on the same page. it can be a tool to improve ONLY IF YOU USE IT CORRECTLY. as an instrumentalist and (so far) lifelong student of music, i find myself spending a lot of time LISTENING AND SHEDDING other peoples' music. you will never grow if you never explore music. I would never get better if it wasnt for me listening to cats like six, bmc, areou, etc freaking these beats and making them interesting. and you can tell from my first beat to the ones i've been posting lately that there is a LOT MORE MOVEMENT. its not an accident. i didnt wake up one day and say, "gee i should probably stop playing the same 4 bar lick for 3 minutes straight." through listening and seeing how other fellow producers flipped the same materials i had to work with, I grow. you wanna post beats and pump your stats, but dont want to interact and be a part of the thread? fine by me! i really dont mind! honestly! but i really feel bad for these kind of people, as they will have a VERY tough time growing as artists. ask ANY successful producer, they are shedding other people's music CONSTANTLY. just two cents that i might or might not have contributed. ferran adria said himself (the god father of modern cuisine) in an interview with one of my old chefs that he spends about 80 percent of his time researching and learning, and 20 percent of the time actually cooking and working in the kitchen. and hes the john coltrane of cooking and was also the ONLY culinarian to be invited to documenta 12. food for thought. one
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    Presented by Lonius and Kongchain. We thank you for your votes and comments! _____ The Theme:_____ Optimism / Pessimism Week It's time to reflect on the year that has passed. Some would say, that a lot a stupid shit went down throughout the world, making it a shitty year. But do you think 2017 will be equally shitty or do you feel more optimistic about the coming year? We have chosen two samples, each with a feel that represents these two moods. Optimistic: http://www92.zippyshare.com/v/kSia6YpQ/file.html Pessimistic: http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/PoWR3HHV/file.html Flip one of the samples, and make a beat that is either optimistic or pessimistic in it's mood and feel. _____The Special Rule:_____ But wait! If you're a really, really special complex kind of person, who encompass both the optimistic and pessimistic view on the coming year, you are most welcome to use both samples. Yes, that's right, both samples! By using both samples, you should try to represent both moods. _____Other rules:_____ Time limit: Below 2½ min. Outside drums, breaks, bass, keys, synths, etc: Allowed. Outside samples: Not allowed Scratches/vocalshots: Allowed Full acapella/rap: Allowed. _____The Fine Print:_____ Upload your beat to Soundcloud, include "STBB 512“ in the title, and POST TO THIS FORUM by Wednesday at Midnight, Pacific time. Try to leave as much feedback as you can and you will receive it back. For easy browsing's sake, you can also go to the STBB page: http://www.stonesthrow.com/stbbcollection EVERYONE VOTES - by Friday at Midnight, Pacific time Winner: post new sample, rules, etc by Saturday at Noon, Pacific time and upload the sample here: http://www.zippyshare.com
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    Samiyam - Animals Have Feelings
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    Yo, hit up some slam poetry open mic nights and leave it at that. You're not a rapper. A rapper knows how to flow within the structure of a beat. They also typically rhyme words with other words or phrases instead of babbling on endlessly occasionally hitting a word that may rhyme with another. If you know it pisses people off when you post your Hype in the Talk thread then please respect the community we have here and either stop posting completely or relegate yourself to the Hype section with the other cats who are only here for click bait. Edit: As a matter of fact you can keep posting your videos in Talk but use this thread instead.
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    This was the original plan. I believe the change might have had something to do with the realities of pressing vinyl. With the major labels back in the vinyl game it's added a month to our average pressing time. I can't speak on all Dilla box set stuff, but Donuts will be continued to be in print and reissued – in good taste – for as long as people continue loving this music, hopefully long enough to outlive all of us. That's not a bad thing for an artist's legacy, it's a part of a legacy. I wrote about this on the board a couple years back when Mr Gerbick asked "Why another Donuts version?"
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    Damn now you set off Pete's Google alert
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    If skill = relatability then you're going to have a hard time enjoying 99% of art. But that's besides the point. MF DOOM is not someone you relate to. He's an exaggerated persona, a character. A supervillain, modeled after Dr. Doom, There are bits of Daniel Dumile in MF DOOM (DOOM may have been born from Dumile's tough career in the music business), but they aren't the same person. In fact, Dumile works under a few different aliases (King Geedorah and Viktor Vaughn to name a couple) with their own special quirks/aspects (although one can argue that Viktor Vaughn and MF DOOM are the same person, only that VV is a sort of 'prequel' to DOOM). But as far as skill, I'd say that DOOM is damn near in a league of his own. His technical rhyme abilities are solid, but his most notable talent is his wit: Some come in the form of codependence A lot of times only end up being codefendants Ten bucks say they tell for a lower sentence And leave you up under the jail, begging for a penance It don't make no sense, what happened to the loyalty? Honor amongst crooks, trust amongst royalty I'd rather go out in a blaze, than give 'em the glory (How many of us have--) a similar story? (Deep Fried Frendz) Here we see DOOM's paranoia at it's peak; the codepedence/codefendants wordplay portrays DOOM's distrust for others, his belief that "friends" can only end up controlling you or betraying you, and his will to destroy himself in order to deny others the pleasure. It's really fantastic wordplay not only for rap, but poetry in general. You can really see the influence that Bukowski had on him here. As The Jackal said, a lot of DOOM's lyrics are often dense, and they require more reflection than usual to really "get". There are a lot of really straightforward DOOM lyrics out there, but they always come with a sort of sardonic flair to them, to the point where most of his songs/lyrics are nihilistic in their bleak portrayal of life in new york and society at large and the state of rap today. Sorry for the wall of text. I'm a huge DOOM fan. His music has influenced me immensely. Great musician. I hope you eventually come to enjoy his music as much as I do. Also you might want to do some fact-checking on your post there, Q-Tip and Posdnuos has definitely talked about how dope they are in their songs. Not that that's a bad thing, quite the opposite, actually. Rap was founded on talking about how dope you are. Rapper's Delight is basically 20 minutes of dudes talking about how dope they are.
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    And to all those fucks, you know who you are, whom keep re-adding your 5 day old beats to the soundcloud group for views or whatever the fuck the reason is, knock it off. We can listen to your shit as we go down the line. You're an inconvenience to the voters who might want to listen some actual new submissions.
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